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Post by Steve Albano on Apr 9, 2012 2:37:22 GMT
While waiting for the Reddish Cuckoo Dove to perch, I chanced upon this tiny bird moving about and caught my attention. I think it is a pair of Fire-breasted Flowerpecker. This is my assumption because the male had a black line in his chest, however, I don't see the red orange part on his upper breast. They were together feeding. I knew I had no moment to loose so didn't anymore change my ISO setting, hence its a bit noisy.. . The last photo is the only one I have - please ID as well. Thank you. Location: upper slopes near Brgy. Udalo, Mindoro Occidental Date April 6, 2012 Would appreciate an ID confirmation from our masters please.. . 1D Mark III + EF400mm f/5.6L USM Exposure 1/640, f/8.0, 400 mm, ISO 3200, +1 EV  Exposure 1/1000, f/8.0, 400 mm, ISO 3200, +1 EV  Exposure 1/400, f/8.0, 400 mm, ISO 3200, +4/3 EV  Exposure 1/1250, f/8.0, 400 mm, ISO 3200, +4/3 EV  Exposure 1/1250, f/8.0, 400 mm, ISO 3200, +4/3 EV  Exposure 1/320, f/8.0, 400 mm, ISO 2000, +2/3 EV  |
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Post by Toto Gamboa on Apr 9, 2012 4:21:17 GMT
I am not expert but the first birds could be a scarlet-collared flowerpecker and the last one an immature pygmy flowerpecker.
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Post by Ramon Quisumbing on Apr 9, 2012 6:23:23 GMT
This looks like a Pygmy Flowerpecker davao race, which according to the KG has a large black breast spot that is lacking in other races. However, the davao race is supposedly found only in Camiguin Sur and Mindanao and not Mindoro.
Steve, where in Mindoro did you take these? I would like to bird there sometime.
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Post by steve pryor on Apr 9, 2012 10:52:10 GMT
The first two appear to be immature Dicaeum retrocinctum (Scarlet-collared Flowerpecker). Many plumages (the immature and juvenile) are undescribed. Good photo to keep in the DB for reference.
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Post by Steve Albano on Apr 9, 2012 12:08:06 GMT
I am not expert but the first birds could be a scarlet-collared flowerpecker and the last one an immature pygmy flowerpecker. thank you for the ID .. . |
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Post by Steve Albano on Apr 9, 2012 12:25:24 GMT
This looks like a Pygmy Flowerpecker davao race, which according to the KG has a large black breast spot that is lacking in other races. However, the davao race is supposedly found only in Camiguin Sur and Mindanao and not Mindoro. Steve, where in Mindoro did you take these? I would like to bird there sometime. Hello Ramon - The place is near Brgy. Udalo (Mindoro Occidental). There is a nice place there (managed by a foreigner) called Tuko Beach Resort. A RoRo boat ride from Batangas Pier will take about 2.5-3 hours to Abra de Ilog. Then a banca ride from Abra de Ilog Pier to Brgy Udalo will take about 30-45 mins. Note: Since the area is on a slope, uphill and downhill walking will be the norm.. . |
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Post by Steve Albano on Apr 9, 2012 12:26:48 GMT
The first two appear to be immature Dicaeum retrocinctum (Scarlet-collared Flowerpecker). Many plumages (the immature and juvenile) are undescribed. Good photo to keep in the DB for reference. Thank you very much Steve for the ID confirmation.. . |
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Post by Ramon Quisumbing on Apr 9, 2012 13:15:31 GMT
This looks like a Pygmy Flowerpecker davao race, which according to the KG has a large black breast spot that is lacking in other races. However, the davao race is supposedly found only in Camiguin Sur and Mindanao and not Mindoro. Steve, where in Mindoro did you take these? I would like to bird there sometime. Hello Ramon - The place is near Brgy. Udalo (Mindoro Occidental). There is a nice place there (managed by a foreigner) called Tuko Beach Resort. A RoRo boat ride from Batangas Pier will take about 2.5-3 hours to Abra de Ilog. Then a banca ride from Abra de Ilog Pier to Brgy Udalo will take about 30-45 mins. Note: Since the area is on a slope, uphill and downhill walking will be the norm.. . Steve, can one drive from Abra de Ilog to Brgy. Udalo? Is it in Calavite Mountain? |
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Post by Steve Albano on Apr 9, 2012 13:33:23 GMT
Hello Ramon - The place is near Brgy. Udalo (Mindoro Occidental). There is a nice place there (managed by a foreigner) called Tuko Beach Resort. A RoRo boat ride from Batangas Pier will take about 2.5-3 hours to Abra de Ilog. Then a banca ride from Abra de Ilog Pier to Brgy Udalo will take about 30-45 mins. Note: Since the area is on a slope, uphill and downhill walking will be the norm.. . Steve, can one drive from Abra de Ilog to Brgy. Udalo? Is it in Calavite Mountain? The road to Brgy. Udalo is still under construction. I have no idea why it is taking so long. Must be a political thing. Anyway, it is not the Calavite Mountain. Brgy. Udalo is between White Beach and Abra de Ilog Pier.. . The road to Mamburao is paved. From Mamburao to Mt. Calavite is, I think, still a rough road but passable. I have not tried birding there yet.. . |
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Post by des on Apr 20, 2012 9:47:32 GMT
The bill, the glossy blue-green on the crown and wing coverts, and the white throat on birds 1 and 2 suggest Pygmy FP to me. I have seen photos of Pygmy from Luzon that show black marks on the belly like this. Birds 3, 4, 5 are immatures to judge from the bright yellow lower mandible and gape. We don't have any good views of the bill shape though. Bird 6 looks typical for Pygmy: note the yellow-olive rump and thin bluish bill. There are some differences between these Pygmy and those I am used to from Luzon, although they are grouped currently in the same subspecies. It would be interesting to look closer at a larger range of Mindoro Pygmy FPs and those of nearby islands.
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Post by steve pryor on Apr 21, 2012 8:23:48 GMT
The bill, the glossy blue-green on the crown and wing coverts, and the white throat on birds 1 and 2 suggest Pygmy FP to me. I have seen photos of Pygmy from Luzon that show black marks on the belly like this. Birds 3, 4, 5 are immatures to judge from the bright yellow lower mandible and gape. We don't have any good views of the bill shape though. Bird 6 looks typical for Pygmy: note the yellow-olive rump and thin bluish bill. There are some differences between these Pygmy and those I am used to from Luzon, although they are grouped currently in the same subspecies. It would be interesting to look closer at a larger range of Mindoro Pygmy FPs and those of nearby islands. Des, it is quite possible you are right about the first two. Unfortunately, we don't have (at least, I haven't seen any) descriptions for non-adult retrocinctum. I thought about the Pygmy and considered that lacking good information about immature retrocinctum that I could not draw a good conclusion about the coloration of the mantle and coverts. I also viewed the bill as being perhaps just a tad too long and sharp. However, if you recall, at least I think I CC'ed you with the photos, that before the publication of the HBW-13, I communicated with Clive Mann about the presence of a black pectoral macula in adult male race davao of the Pygmy (because he did not mention it in the monograph). I haven't seen photos of the Luzon race of the Pygmy with the macula, but I certainly believe you on this, and it does not surprise me in the least. |
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