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Post by Romy Ocon on Jan 9, 2008 4:09:53 GMT
How the suspected parents managed to unite physically brings my imagination afire... ;D 1DM2 + 500 f4 L IS + Canon 1.4x TC, 1/1600 sec, f/7.1, ISO 320, manual exposure, 475B/3421 support, Candaba wetlands, January 8, 2008:  Seriously, based on the wing and tail pattern, as well as on the head and bill shape, I'd guess this is an "amelanistic" Anas luzonica. Waiting for Steve's usual expert analysis.  Romy |
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Post by Adri Constantino on Jan 9, 2008 4:43:12 GMT
Just want to share an unusual sighting also, this time in Makiling.
Trinket and I have observed a bird (unfortunately no pictures for documentation) that really looks like a Philippine Bulbul that we thought has amelanism too. It has the shape, birdcall and the behaviour of a Phil. Bulbul (and seen hanging out with Phil. Bulbuls also) but its whole back is buff yellow not dark brown. The face has the usual greyish shades and the chest/neck area has the reddish streaking present in Phil. Bulbuls.
Sir Steve, is now the time of the year for these amelanistic birds? Just sharing.
If you want to know where we saw this bulbul, just PM me.
Adri
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Post by Eric Patdu on Jan 9, 2008 5:21:52 GMT
Amelanistic - word of the year! ;D
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Post by Eric Patdu on Jan 9, 2008 5:24:43 GMT
Sir Steve,
Is amelanistic different from pied? Or is pied also an acceptable term for these birds?
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Post by steve pryor on Jan 9, 2008 9:10:28 GMT
Yes, another case of amelanism. Looks wild-type, but who knows with Ducks! They are known (Ducks in general - not Anas luzonica in particular) to be very promiscuous!
Can you use Pied? No.
Pied is a term that can be used when speaking of a normal plumage colored bird. It means literally "black and white". A useful example in the Philippines would be an adult male Lalage nigra - that bird can be called Pied. Only black and white - and only with normal plumaged birds therefore...
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Post by Romy Ocon on Jan 9, 2008 9:48:33 GMT
Thanks, Steve.... just to make sure I got it right, the ID is indeed Anas luzonica? Romy Yes, another case of amelanism. Looks wild-type, but who knows with Ducks! They are known (Ducks in general - not Anas luzonica in particular) to be very promiscuous! Can you use Pied? No. Pied is a term that can be used when speaking of a normal plumage colored bird. It means literally "black and white". A useful example in the Philippines would be an adult male Lalage nigra - that bird can be called Pied. Only black and white - and only with normal plumaged birds therefore... |
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Post by steve pryor on Jan 9, 2008 11:14:13 GMT
Thanks, Steve.... just to make sure I got it right, the ID is indeed Anas luzonica? Romy Yes, that is my take on it. |
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Post by Romy Ocon on Jan 9, 2008 11:17:17 GMT
Ok, thanks again Steve, I'll now put the ID in my galleries.... Romy Romy Yes, that is my take on it. |
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Post by Eric Patdu on Jan 9, 2008 12:09:01 GMT
Thanks Sir Steve for the clarification. I just got used to the domestic bird term where they use pied to denote birds with white patches that is not present in the wild-type plumage. ;D I believe that one reason they give for these "pied" (their term) appearance is in-breeding. Could this also be one reason for amelanism (aside from promiscuity  )? Best regards, Eric Can you use Pied? No. Pied is a term that can be used when speaking of a normal plumage colored bird. It means literally "black and white". A useful example in the Philippines would be an adult male Lalage nigra - that bird can be called Pied. Only black and white - and only with normal plumaged birds therefore... |
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