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Post by Nilo Arribas Jr. on Mar 24, 2013 12:53:41 GMT
Hello friends,
This bird apparently is not a White-eye and certainly do not have the features of one. I am happy to finally capture this bird that showed the facial features.
Thanks for viewing.
Black-masked White-eye [Lophozosterops goodfellowi]
Canon 40D + 300mm f/2.8 at f/5.6, 1/500Sec, ISO-800, tripod
Black-masked White-eye [Lophozosterops goodfellowi]
Canon 40D + 300mm f/10, 1/40Sec, ISO-800, tripod
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Post by Bobby Kintanar on Mar 24, 2013 13:39:40 GMT
Another great lifer my friend! Do keep sharing with us your bountiful harvest. :-)
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Post by Nilo Arribas Jr. on Mar 25, 2013 2:09:25 GMT
Thanks Sir Bobby. I've seen this bird in past sorties but never got a chance to capture a decent shot.
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Post by Clemn A. Macasiano Jr. on Mar 25, 2013 4:44:30 GMT
Your a lucky guy Nilo. I haven't seen this in the wild. Maybe one day. .... Wonderful shot. Thanks for sharing
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Post by Ramon Quisumbing on Mar 26, 2013 15:20:39 GMT
Beautiful capture, Nilo! I don't think I have seen a photo of this uncommon bird. Congrats!
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Post by Ely Teehankee on Mar 26, 2013 19:54:32 GMT
Congratulations Nilo for being able to photographed this seldom seen bird. It must have been quite a thrill for you. Well done & Mabuhay.
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Post by Nilo Arribas Jr. on Mar 29, 2013 9:58:15 GMT
Your a lucky guy Nilo. I haven't seen this in the wild. Maybe one day. .... Wonderful shot. Thanks for sharing Thanks Doc. I'm sure its just a matter of time for you to meet this guy  |
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Post by Nilo Arribas Jr. on Mar 29, 2013 10:02:34 GMT
Beautiful capture, Nilo! I don't think I have seen a photo of this uncommon bird. Congrats! Thanks much, Ramon. |
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Post by Nilo Arribas Jr. on Mar 29, 2013 10:04:25 GMT
Congratulations Nilo for being able to photographed this seldom seen bird. It must have been quite a thrill for you. Well done & Mabuhay. It was indeed a thrilling experience, Ely. Imagine seeing an oversized white-eye with no white-eyes  |
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Post by Ely Teehankee on Mar 30, 2013 4:19:02 GMT
Congratulations Nilo for being able to photographed this seldom seen bird. It must have been quite a thrill for you. Well done & Mabuhay. It was indeed a thrilling experience, Ely. Imagine seeing an oversized white-eye with no white-eyes Some times it makes you wonder how they give names to these birds. LOL. |
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Post by Edwin Matias on Apr 3, 2013 3:06:13 GMT
Sir Nilo,
Congrats, another Great capture
Regards,
Edwin Matias
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Post by Tonji Ramos on May 9, 2013 23:41:59 GMT
Wow, great photo. I've been to Kitanglad 3 times and have only seen it twice. Either I have useless blurs or shadows of this bird. It has not seen fit to pose for me. Nice to see some good pics of this bird. |
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Post by Ramon Quisumbing on May 11, 2013 0:27:52 GMT
I wonder why this bird is called a White-Eye when it has no white eye ring.
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Post by Nilo Arribas Jr. on May 23, 2013 15:37:29 GMT
It was indeed a thrilling experience, Ely. Imagine seeing an oversized white-eye with no white-eyes Some times it makes you wonder how they give names to these birds. LOL. It's equally interesting to know how the birders managed reconcile names without the Internet or relational databases |
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Post by Nilo Arribas Jr. on May 23, 2013 15:38:29 GMT
Sir Nilo, Congrats, another Great capture Regards, Edwin Matias Thanks Edwin |
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Post by Nilo Arribas Jr. on May 23, 2013 15:40:12 GMT
Wow, great photo. I've been to Kitanglad 3 times and have only seen it twice. Either I have useless blurs or shadows of this bird. It has not seen fit to pose for me. Nice to see some good pics of this bird. I've seen this bird many times as well but this is my first time to capture an image. |
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Post by Nilo Arribas Jr. on May 23, 2013 15:43:41 GMT
I wonder why this bird is called a White-Eye when it has no white eye ring. I think we are not alone with this and more question on the name, Ramon. Mindanao Ibon should be a good fitting name. |
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Post by Edwin Matias on May 24, 2013 3:31:51 GMT
Sir Nilo,
Another Great Captures
Regards,
Edwin Matias
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Post by steve pryor on Jun 2, 2013 15:19:35 GMT
Okay. I see there is some controversy about the common name. As I am sure everybody in Phils knows better than I do, Ibon simply means bird in tagalog.
Until the about last ten years or so some of these old common names were applied to familially unrelated birds simply for convention, and for ignorance.
Hypocryptadius, also known as the Cinnamon Ibon used to be thought an aberrant Zosteropidae (a White-eye), and the name Ibon was also applied to the Philippine ranging Lophozosterops (i.e., the bird talked about in this thread). In the last decade much has been learned about the true relationships of many bird groups. Zosteropidae (generically called White-eyes regardless if they have a white glabrous zone around the eye, or not) are now considered related to Babblers (pending revision of all Babbler-related taxa these birds still retain family status = Zosteropidae).
A couple of things happened along the tortuous road taken to give these birds more appropriate common names given their revised genetic relationships. First, the Cinnamon Ibon was found to not be a Zosteropidae, but rather an aberrant forest Sparrow, a Passeridae. It was decided to keep the name Ibon associated with this bird. However, it was also decided that Ibon should have been kept for Lophozosterops species (including those in Indonesia where tagalog is not spoken). A lot of people noticed this rather illogical name association, including myself, and started complaining to the IOC. The IOC, once realizing the mistake, and taking into account the more established usage of Ibon for the Cinnamon Ibon, now a Passeridae, decided to take the bull by the horns and leave Ibon only for the Cinnamon Ibon.
Therefore, no more name Ibon for any family white-eyes species.
Now, unless there were already established common names different from 'White-eye', all Zosteropidae are now all White-eye, regardless of whether or not they actually have the glabrous whitish circumocular ring, or not! A compromise to be sure, but a compromise made to decrease the confusion engendered by different birds with different geneological relationships sharing the same common name.
It should also be mentioned that many of the birds from the Philippines formerly considered true babblers (but not Zosteropidae) have now been found to be closely associated with the Zosteropidae, indeed, they have been moved into Family Zosteropidae but because of past usage of common names they are still called Babblers of one sort of another (I am speaking of all of those philippine babbler-related birds that used to be all treated within genus Stachyris - now Zosterornis, Dasycrotapha, Sterrhoptilus, etc.)
One last thing, the IOC calls the bird object of this thread, the Mindanao White-eye.
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Post by Frederick Arceo on Jun 10, 2013 13:25:33 GMT
Congrats Sir Nilo. |
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