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Post by Neil Konrad III on Feb 8, 2012 6:19:40 GMT
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Post by Neil Konrad III on Feb 8, 2012 6:28:05 GMT
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Post by gabriel buluran on Feb 8, 2012 7:21:55 GMT
hi neil! white bellied munia yata yun first 3 pictures.
congrats!
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Post by steve pryor on Feb 8, 2012 11:41:32 GMT
Neil,
Nice photos of the Oriole. At first glance they seemed a bit strange. I am not used to seeing this much black extending down the nape. For those that are interested, the last Oriole photo shows a mixed pair (the male is half-hidden and in the foreground). Some now subsume the mindanao-ranging race yamamurae, into the nominate race chinensis. However, if I compare photos of the species from Luzon (certainly race chinensis) they differ from the Mindanao bird in a couple of small features, including the presence of yellow tips of the tertials. It makes me wonder if yamamurae from other locations of its reported range also lack yellow tertial tips. If so, then the race should probably not be subsumed with the nominate.
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Post by Neil Konrad III on Feb 9, 2012 7:02:12 GMT
hi neil! white bellied munia yata yun first 3 pictures. congrats! My mistake ;D How about the last munia photo?  |
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Post by Neil Konrad III on Feb 9, 2012 7:04:19 GMT
Neil, Nice photos of the Oriole. At first glance they seemed a bit strange. I am not used to seeing this much black extending down the nape. For those that are interested, the last Oriole photo shows a mixed pair (the male is half-hidden and in the foreground). Some now subsume the mindanao-ranging race yamamurae, into the nominate race chinensis. However, if I compare photos of the species from Luzon (certainly race chinensis) they differ from the Mindanao bird in a couple of small features, including the presence of yellow tips of the tertials. It makes me wonder if yamamurae from other locations of its reported range also lack yellow tertial tips. If so, then the race should probably not be subsumed with the nominate. Thank you sir.  |
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Post by gabriel buluran on Feb 9, 2012 8:56:19 GMT
All white bellied...
Cheers!
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Post by Lydia Robledo on Feb 9, 2012 14:54:26 GMT
Wow, Neil... we have so many motivations to bird in your area. We're excited. Congratulations, those were great captures.  telyds |
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Post by Renoir Abrea on Feb 12, 2012 2:32:13 GMT
nice image'
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Post by Steve Albano on Feb 12, 2012 15:23:48 GMT
Great catch!! Your place is a must see!! Thanks for sharing.. .
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Post by Ely Teehankee on Feb 12, 2012 22:06:48 GMT
From the comments made by Steve it appears that this could be a different kind of species which would make it very interesting. I was able to photograph the Black-naped Oriole in Bohol. I hope it will help Steve confirm his observation. Keep on shooting Neil & Mabuhay.
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Post by Neil Konrad III on Feb 13, 2012 8:10:26 GMT
From the comments made by Steve it appears that this could be a different kind of species which would make it very interesting. I was able to photograph the Black-naped Oriole in Bohol. I hope it will help Steve confirm his observation. Keep on shooting Neil & Mabuhay. Thank you sir. If this is a different species then I really should find time to look for them again; hopefully get better shots in the process |
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Post by Neil Konrad III on Feb 13, 2012 8:15:13 GMT
Great catch!! Your place is a must see!! Thanks for sharing.. . Hope to see here soon! |
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Post by Neil Konrad III on Feb 13, 2012 8:16:21 GMT
Thanks! Hope to go birding with you again soon. |
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Post by Edu Lorenzo Jr on Feb 13, 2012 14:51:28 GMT
beautiful imagery, Neil. Congratulations and thank you for sharing.
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Post by steve pryor on Feb 15, 2012 10:28:31 GMT
From the comments made by Steve it appears that this could be a different kind of species which would make it very interesting. I was able to photograph the Black-naped Oriole in Bohol. I hope it will help Steve confirm his observation. Keep on shooting Neil & Mabuhay. An item I just read in the latest Birding Asia: " The Oriolus chinensis complexJonsson et al. (2010) reviewed the relationships of the orioles, remarking: "We did not sample all O. chinensis subspecies and therefore we can only state that O. chinensis populations in mainland Asia ( O. c. diffusus), the Philippines ( O. c. chinensis and O. c. melanistictus) and the Sunda Islands ( O. c. maculatus), which are represented in this study, are rather divergent according to DNA data and that species status for at least these three taxa must be considered." Observations: I will have to try and get a hold of the paper: " Jonnson, Bowie, Moyle, Irestedt, Christidis, Norman, & Fjeldsa (2010) Phylogeny and biogeography of Oriolidae (Aves: Passeriformes) . Ecography 33: 232-241." If I interpret correctly, according to the above, they subsume race suluensis within melanistictus. From my information, melanistictus ranges not in the Philippines, rather in the Talaud Is., but if they do subsume suluensis in melanistictus, then melanistictus would range in the Philippines. Nonetheless, none of this adds anything to the question of the gross morphological differences of race chinensis, and the other races, differently defined by different authorities, cf. yamamurae, suluensis. I guess I will have to try and find images of yamamurae, suluensis, and melanistictus, and have a look. It makes me wonder if the presence or absence, e.g., of yellow-tipped tertials may be considered a clinal feature. |
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Post by Ely Teehankee on Feb 15, 2012 14:20:22 GMT
If I interpret correctly, according to the above, they subsume race suluensis within melanistictus. From my information, melanistictus ranges not in the Philippines, rather in the Talaud Is., but if they do subsume suluensis in melanistictus, then melanistictus would range in the Philippines.
I am hopeful that it will be melanistictus as this could mean that it could be endemic to the Philippines. I have sent to you by email, two pictures of the Black-naped Oriole that I took in Bilar, Bohol.
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telyds
