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Post by Lydia Robledo on Mar 3, 2008 1:14:31 GMT
  Sorry guys. I was paralyzed when I saw these doves. I was so close and the 500mm Nestor lent me was so heavy and I did not have a tripod and did not manage to set my 20D correctly. Oh how I wish that the experts of PBP were with me. I have quite a number of shots. Maybe someone can do photo shop to improve the photos? Place: Biliran Leyte. |
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Post by JP Cariño on Mar 3, 2008 1:18:14 GMT
yes i think they are ate lyds  nice shots |
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Post by Lydia Robledo on Mar 3, 2008 1:51:32 GMT
Oh, you are very kind with your remarks JP. Thank you. They are nice birds but not nice shots. When you have a 500mm, that's unforgivable. I wished they were butterflies.
I was wondering why they have the blue tones on the nape. The KG does not show.
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Post by Romy Ocon on Mar 3, 2008 2:09:50 GMT
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Post by Bobby Kintanar on Mar 3, 2008 2:31:35 GMT
I tend to agree with Ka Master Telyds. I also think it's a WEBD. Here's one I took at Balinsasayao, Negros, recently:  |
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Post by Lydia Robledo on Mar 3, 2008 3:59:13 GMT
Whoa! Nice, nice, nice shots Master Ka Romy. Bobby K, thank you for taking time. When will I learn how to shoot fantastic photos kaya? Bob, you should set time for the birds of Eastern Visayas. With Helly there, birding is so easy. The roads are the best in the Philippines -- no bumps to the remote barangays. telyd
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Post by steve pryor on Mar 3, 2008 16:25:16 GMT
Lydia,
They are Phapitreron leucotis. It is hard to mistake the amethystina with good photos - much larger looking, longer tail, periocular skin is purplish, etc. The bill is longer, and overall more massive in amethystina. The head is on profile more blocky and elongated respect to the more rounded head of leucotis. Perhaps the tip-off with these photos could have been the pale-colored forehead - sometimes seen in leucotis (but not always), but never seen in amethystina.
One last observation: as so many other times I must call into question the KG plate of leucotis, as it may have been a cause of confusion here. Comparing the sub-ocular white slash of these two species it would appear that the leucotis respect to the amethystina has a relatively tiny slash that terminates just back of the posterior eye canthus - not true - there is just a slight difference in strength of this feature as far as I can tell comparing my DB photos of the two species.
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Post by Lydia Robledo on Mar 4, 2008 16:37:41 GMT
Thank you Steve. Now I am learning how to "fine tune." I should watch out for the other important details, not just the color. Birds are much easier to ID than butterflies, I just need to pay more attention or take better pictures, better both.
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nice shots 
