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Post by Ding Carpio on Dec 31, 2009 0:33:52 GMT
I like this photo of the Osprey we shot yesterday. It somewhat conveys an impending action from the bird. Since the bird's pose is action enough, I find the background too busy and detracts from the overall impact of the photo. So, with some duplicated layer masking, I blurred the background and cloned the near the edges of the bird (and even encroaching the BG into the bird) to avoid that "glow" effect on contrasty edges when one blurs. This is the first result: Blurred it a bit more: Yet some more, but using horizontal motion blur to calm down the BG a bit: Which one do you think is best? Does the photo look too fake? If so, any tips on how to best make it look natural? Or does blurring the BG rarely work that I should just abandon the idea? Thanks, in advance, Master. I hope this thread contributes to some learning among us as I'm sure we all frequently encounter this problem.
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Post by Romy Ocon on Dec 31, 2009 3:12:52 GMT
Impressive PP work on these, Ding! There's really no right or wrong way to process a bird photo, it all depends on what you intend to do with your work. If you wish to present them as natural history type captures (printable say in Nat Geo), blurring the BG in PP, no matter how much it improves the aesthetics of the capture, is a big no-no. I try to subscribe to this presentation of nature photos. Generally, only minor PP work is done, like adjustments of exposure, contrast, levels, saturation, and sharpness. Cropping, NR (not blurring) and cloning of minor distacting elements may be done, though the latter should be practiced with conservatism. This approach is also similar to the practices observed at Naturescapes' Birds Forum, where the best birdshooters around the world post their work. www.naturescapes.net/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=3Now, if you wish to present your work as Digital Art (which is another nice genre), anything can be done to it, including cloning and blurring of BG. Interestingly, the common practice in most respected nature photo forums is to mention what special PP work was done when posting photos. This is to guide the viewer whether to appreciate the work as natural history image, or digital art. For me, I try to blur the BG during capture (long lens + wide aperture + large distance between subject and BG). It's not an easy thing to do, and I nail it very rarely, but it's one challenge that makes me enjoy wild bird photography so much.
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Post by Ding Carpio on Dec 31, 2009 6:53:17 GMT
Thanks, Master. Appreciate and value your comments. He-he. I know what you mean re being faithful to the true picture. I recall sometime back when some aesthetic photo manipulation of the Giza pyramids in a Natgeo cover www.jkiel.com/comm7180/kiel_pyramid.pdf caused a scandal. I'll make sure to be conservative in PP when NatGeo calls for some of my photos. That being said, from an aesthetic viewpoint. Do you think my PP makes the photo look fake? Which one's good (if any) and which ones are off? Should we also have some policy on photo manipulation in our forum?
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Post by Romy Ocon on Dec 31, 2009 7:33:00 GMT
To my PP-trained eye, it's easy to spot the ones with a blurred BG.... these are not as pleasing as lens-induced blurring, and actually appear too artificial. You did a great job though in making the transitions quite seamless (you'll make a good plastic surgeon! ;D).
If I were using this as a natural history image, I'll leave the BG the same as shot.
If I intend to make a digital artwork out of this, I would have shot some images right after the money shot, with the BG intentionally blurred by defocusing the lens a bit, and moving the aiming point clear of the perch. Such a BG shot will have the same lighting/exposure settings as the money shot, and any WB applied on the former will also be applied on the latter. I'll then merge the two distinct shots into a composite image. This method is often practiced by Artie Morris.
Let me caution though that posting digitally altered images without telling that these were manipulated might reflect badly on the reputation of the nature photographer. I've heard of at least a few photographers at popular international forums that do such, and all their photos have become suspect, even the ones that were really perfect captures and with only minimal PP work done.
We do have an implied "rule" at PBPF - digitally altered bird images should be posted at the Digital Art board. For the exhibits and book projects where yours truly was part of the organizing committee, I've always asked that major digital alterations should not be done on the submissions.
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Post by Ding Carpio on Dec 31, 2009 7:37:53 GMT
Thanks, again, Master.
Excellent tip on the 2nd defocused shot. Will try that sometime.
Will also make sure I always indicate in my photos if I did some "cheating."
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