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Egret
Nov 2, 2009 12:15:00 GMT
Post by Ely Teehankee on Nov 2, 2009 12:15:00 GMT
I am not sure wht kind of Egret this is. Bong & I went birding in San Simon this morning. Doc Chito posted some Chinese Egrets on the Forum and mentions about the behavior of this bird. We think its the same but will wait for the expert to tell us so. I have 4 pictures showing the behavior of this bird when he is about to capture a prey just like the way Doc narrated. I wish the pictures were better but this is more of a report of its behavior. They have green legs and yellow feet. Canon 5DM2, EF 800mm F5.6 IS L Lens, Bean bag on car window. ISO 1600, 1/1000, f11 for all the pictures.
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Egret
Nov 2, 2009 12:44:27 GMT
Post by Neon Rosell II on Nov 2, 2009 12:44:27 GMT
Nice Captures Ely!! Love the water splash on the third photo. They have green legs and yellow feet. CE have yellowish green feet as well. I think all photos taken from San Simon is that of a Little Egret.
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Egret
Nov 2, 2009 12:46:46 GMT
Post by Toto Gamboa on Nov 2, 2009 12:46:46 GMT
Great shots of the CE sir Ely! Wish to have this bird on my lifer list!
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Egret
Nov 2, 2009 12:53:21 GMT
Post by Edu Lorenzo Jr on Nov 2, 2009 12:53:21 GMT
I LOVE that headless egret! What an action shot!
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Egret
Nov 2, 2009 14:33:20 GMT
Post by Luis (Chito) Limchiu on Nov 2, 2009 14:33:20 GMT
Hi Ely, Nice captures! Here is a copy of my reply to Bong on the ID of Egrets pertaining to CE. Hi Bong, Nice pics on the 'CE?" I think you got the right spot. Sorry, I forgot to tell you the best time to see it (as I only saw 1 CE?) is in the afternoon because of the lighting. The basic differentials are the little Egret and the white phase of the reef egret. The little egret has more black legs and brighter more uniform orange feet, it is also smaller and has a different hunting behavior. Here is my ref pic of the Little Egret The more difficult differential for the white egret with green legs is the white phase of the Reef Egret. Here is a site with good discussion and photos showing the differences. digdeep1962.blogspot.com/2008_10_01_archive.htmlThis site clearly shows the bill pattern of the CE vis a vis the Reef Egret By the way I also got a headless shot, but I only saw one of the questionable CE. Cheers Chito
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Egret
Nov 3, 2009 2:33:32 GMT
Post by Ely Teehankee on Nov 3, 2009 2:33:32 GMT
Nice Captures Ely!! Love the water splash on the third photo. They have green legs and yellow feet. CE have yellowish green feet as well. I think all photos taken from San Simon is that of a Little Egret. Thank you Neon. Wow, all the excitement we had was for nothing. When you say the CE have yellowish green feet as well does that mean the LE have yellowish green feet just like them? If you are right, than its a disappointment for us. But as they say the truth shall prevail. We just have to learn to live with it. Heh heh heh. At least we got excited.
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Egret
Nov 3, 2009 4:37:05 GMT
Post by Romy Ocon on Nov 3, 2009 4:37:05 GMT
Very nice set, Ely... great job in timing this one!
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Egret
Nov 3, 2009 21:12:51 GMT
Post by Ely Teehankee on Nov 3, 2009 21:12:51 GMT
Great shots of the CE sir Ely! Wish to have this bird on my lifer list! Thank you Toto. There are still some doubts if this is a Chinese Egret. I plan to post some pictures on the Forum for ID to determine exactly what kind of Egret this is. Watch what the others have to say in Birds for ID.
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Egret
Nov 3, 2009 21:15:02 GMT
Post by Ely Teehankee on Nov 3, 2009 21:15:02 GMT
I LOVE that headless egret! What an action shot! Thank you Edu. I was following this Egret because I noticed that he jumps and flies off with no notice at all. I thought it would be interesting to see if I can capture those moment.
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Egret
Nov 3, 2009 21:21:10 GMT
Post by Ely Teehankee on Nov 3, 2009 21:21:10 GMT
Thank you Doc. I am looking for some pictures that I took so I can have the bird ID by the Forum members. It should be interesting to hear what they have to say. Should it be some other bird rather than the CE, we should not be disappointed. It will be a good lesson for us and we also had fun in the process of photographing this bird. If it is the CE, than we have a lifer. Mabuhay.
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Egret
Nov 3, 2009 21:24:28 GMT
Post by Ely Teehankee on Nov 3, 2009 21:24:28 GMT
Very nice set, Ely... great job in timing this one! Thank you Romy. I am glad that I had my speed setting @ 1000 which enabled me to freeze the water. It is a satisfaction to be able to do what you set out to do.
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Egret
Nov 3, 2009 23:07:26 GMT
Post by Farmer Nestor on Nov 3, 2009 23:07:26 GMT
Great timing indeed! love the 3rd pics.
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Egret
Nov 3, 2009 23:29:21 GMT
Post by JP Cariño on Nov 3, 2009 23:29:21 GMT
timed to perfection on the headless egret
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Egret
Nov 3, 2009 23:30:54 GMT
Post by Toto Gamboa on Nov 3, 2009 23:30:54 GMT
Great shots of the CE sir Ely! Wish to have this bird on my lifer list! Thank you Toto. There are still some doubts if this is a Chinese Egret. I plan to post some pictures on the Forum for ID to determine exactly what kind of Egret this is. Watch what the others have to say in Birds for ID. I am not an expert in bird IDs but I am really leaning that this be a CE. The only doubt I have is in its lower mandible which is not yellowish. The legs and feet though suggest it is chienese. Based on the references that I have searched, there seem to be no exact match and ID is not definite. Could this be a new species? heheh. Since this is first photographed by Doc Chito, this could still be a CE. Chito's Egret
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Egret
Nov 4, 2009 4:17:59 GMT
Post by Mark Itol on Nov 4, 2009 4:17:59 GMT
Beautiful! Great timing on that "headless" egret shot. Was it able to get a catch?
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Egret
Nov 4, 2009 5:02:27 GMT
Post by Elvin Sansona on Nov 4, 2009 5:02:27 GMT
Sir Ely ariel or tide will love this shot! The white feathers are so great and the shot too!
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Egret
Nov 9, 2009 14:17:04 GMT
Post by steve pryor on Nov 9, 2009 14:17:04 GMT
Please, for ID requests, always include the Island, or if, as in this case there are multiple locations with the same name on the same Island. There are three San Simon in the Philippines, apparently all on Luzon. I imagine this is the one near Candaba.
In any case, this is, well, I almost said obviously, but I know to many it is not. This is garzetta.
Since we are talking about making comparisons between two species of non-breeding white egrets, what you look for between eulophotes and garzetta, is general bill conformation (longer, more dagger-like in garzetta), the proportions of the tibiotarsi (the upper leg, i.e., the feathered part, comparing to the body - this takes practise, and eye), the color of the feet (when you can see them obviously) - garzetta has them decidedly yellow, and the rest of the leg decidedly black to grey-black, while eulophotes has the feet a sort of sickly yellow-green color, and the rest of the leg color is variable and usually a sort of admixture of charcoal grey with variable amounts of greenishness mixed in. Here, however, even without being able to judge most of the above, the length and sinuosity of the neck is enough to eliminate eulophotes which has it stouter, and without all of the "snakeishness", to coin a word, evident in this bird.
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Egret
Nov 9, 2009 21:43:38 GMT
Post by Ariel Matias on Nov 9, 2009 21:43:38 GMT
wow! I loved that headless shot! truly wonderful, Ely.
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Egret
Nov 10, 2009 0:11:34 GMT
Post by Ely Teehankee on Nov 10, 2009 0:11:34 GMT
Please, for ID requests, always include the Island, or if, as in this case there are multiple locations with the same name on the same Island. There are three San Simon in the Philippines, apparently all on Luzon. I imagine this is the one near Candaba. In any case, this is, well, I almost said obviously, but I know to many it is not. This is garzetta. Since we are talking about making comparisons between two species of non-breeding white egrets, what you look for between eulophotes and garzetta, is general bill conformation (longer, more dagger-like in garzetta), the proportions of the tibiotarsi (the upper leg, i.e., the feathered part, comparing to the body - this takes practise, and eye), the color of the feet (when you can see them obviously) - garzetta has them decidedly yellow, and the rest of the leg decidedly black to grey-black, while eulophotes has the feet a sort of sickly yellow-green color, and the rest of the leg color is variable and usually a sort of admixture of charcoal grey with variable amounts of greenishness mixed in. Here, however, even without being able to judge most of the above, the length and sinuosity of the neck is enough to eliminate eulophotes which has it stouter, and without all of the "snakeishness", to coin a word, evident in this bird. Thank you Steve. We will put an end to this guessing game as you have identified it as a Garzetta, which we call a Little Egret here. We can now continue our quest for the Chinese Egret especially for me who has never seen one yet.
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Egret
Nov 10, 2009 0:12:51 GMT
Post by Ely Teehankee on Nov 10, 2009 0:12:51 GMT
wow! I loved that headless shot! truly wonderful, Ely. Thank you Ariel. You will have the chance to do that soon. Mabuhay.
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