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Post by Neon Rosell II on Feb 2, 2008 23:39:24 GMT
Hi Gang!
I just started to add the local name (LN) below the common name (CN) and scientific name (SN) of the species to our collection. If you know the LN of any birds and the dialect where it was known, please post it and I'll add it to the data base.
I have the book Philippine Birds and Mammals by Dioscoro S. Rabor where the local names of some species described are listed.
Cheers,
Neon
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Post by Lydia Robledo on Feb 3, 2008 1:53:48 GMT
Hi Gang! I just started to add the local name (LN) below the common name (CN) and scientific name (SN) of the species to our collection. If you know the LN of any birds and the dialect where it was known, please post it and I'll add it to the data base. I have the book Philippine Birds and Mammals by Dioscoro S. Rabor where the local names of some species described are listed. Cheers, Neon        WE LOVE YOU NEON!     Someday soon, I pray that this thread will be in print - the best coffee table book/reference on Philippine birds-unequalled "For I know the plans that I have for you says the Lord..." (Jeremiah 29:11ff). You are a jail-bird for a reason. You will help me with the Philippine butterflies, will you?  PLEAAAAAAAASSSSSSE! telyds  |
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Post by Romy Ocon on Feb 3, 2008 4:25:50 GMT
Hehe... this is a major endeavor amigo.... what with all the local dialects.  Thanks for tackling the job! |
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Post by MorbZ on Apr 6, 2009 22:43:12 GMT
Can I share the Bicol names of the birds in the database, sir? Those which I am familiar with^_^ thanks  |
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Post by Neon Rosell II on Apr 6, 2009 23:34:55 GMT
Can I share the Bicol names of the birds in the database, sir? Those which I am familiar with^_^ thanks Yes, Please!! This would be a great addition to the database. We've started to include the local names of the birds but can't find enough time to key-in and update, we'll just do it slowly when time permits. Thanks!! ;D |
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Post by MorbZ on Apr 8, 2009 1:44:47 GMT
Sir, where can I put the local names of the birds? Here? Email? Private message? Thanks again |
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Post by Neon Rosell II on Apr 8, 2009 4:57:45 GMT
Sir, where can I put the local names of the birds? Here? Email? Private message? Thanks again You can post it here or PM it to me, Thanks! I think just post it here so that everyone can see it and make some comments regarding equivalent local names in their local places. Thanks!!  |
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Post by Elvin Sansona on Jul 18, 2009 14:36:13 GMT
Its good hear that local names of birds will be included in the ID key. Actually it really helps in the ID and it gives a local taste of a worldwide hobby. Also, Philippines being archipelagic, have different names for every bird in every locality
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Post by Toto Gamboa on Jul 18, 2009 15:44:09 GMT
I have listed some of the local names of Negros birds that I can remember. My grandfather and my father used to use these local names. I am aware though that there is confusion with local names even among the elders that I have asked.
Any Owl (Bukaw)
Any Parrot (Pikoy)
Asian Glossy Starling (Galansiyang)
Asian Glossy Starling (Sal-ing)
Australasian Grass-Owl (Morogmon)
Black Nape Oriole (Kiyaw)
Bleeding Heart Dove (Punay)
Brown Shrike (Tigbabaras)
Bush Hen (Tugtog)
Chestnut Munia (Maya Pula)
Cisticola) (Korit)
Common Small Bats (Alagit-it)
Crow (Uwak)
Eagle (Da-pay)
Egret (Tulabong)
Eurasian Tree Sparrow (Maya Bungol)
Java Sparrow (Maya Costa)
Large Fruit Bat (Kabog)
Mynah (Martaniko)
Olive-backed Sunbird (Tamsi)
Philippine Coucal (Kukok)
Pied Fantail (Maria Kapra)
Pigeon (Pating)
Quail with darkbrown plumage (Umbok)
Quail with lighter plumage (Pitaw)
Rail (Tikling)
Small Hawk (Da-git)
Snipe (Kamang)
Spotted Dove (Tukmo)
Swift, swallow (Talimbabatang)
Wild Duck (Pato)
Yellow Bittern (Malabun-ak)
Yellow Vented Bulbul (Di-kol)
Zebra Dove (Kurokukok)
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Post by Edu Lorenzo Jr on Jul 18, 2009 23:56:55 GMT
Kiyaw (Black Nape Oriole) is also called "Kilyawan" here in Central Luzon
Sagitsit (Any swift or swallow)
Bato-bato (Zebra Dove)
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Post by Elvin Sansona on Jul 19, 2009 4:06:53 GMT
I also ask some folks here for local names:
asian glossy starling - gulansyang
barbet - pok-pok
black-naped oriole - antolihaw, tolihaw
brahminy kite - banog
chestnut munia - mayang bungol
coleto - sal-ing
coucal - kokok
grass owl - ngiw-ngiw
falconet (Mastah's fave) - it-it
frigates - salagunting
frogmouth - wak-wak (associated with nightly supernatural being, aswang)
egret - tabong, tulabong
emerald dove - manatad
eurasian tree sparrow - guryon, pari-pari (because its common in the church)
imperial pigeon - balod, bawod
koel - pahaw
night-heron - lapay
nightjar - kikik (associated with nightly supernatural being, aswang)
painted snipe - pook (as in po-ok)
philippine eagle - manaol, agila
philippine hanging parakeet - kolasisi, kosi (pinch in english)
pompadour green pigeon and other green-colored doves- punay
rail - tikling
scops owl - manghak
serpent eagle - tikwi or tikwi-banog
spotted dove - tukmo
sparrowhawk and other "genus-mates" - sikop
sunbird - tamsi
terns - kanawayon, kanaway
yellow-vented bulbul - pirok-pirok
white-eared brown fruit dove - alimukon, limukon
woodswallow - git-git
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Post by Toto Gamboa on Jul 19, 2009 5:50:34 GMT
wow cool If we try to look initially at the local names, a number of them seem to share a common name too across different regions, like sunbirds are called "tamsi". Interesting. There are names too that are used but refers to different birds like "Sal-ing". Sal-ing as the name for Coleto might be the correct one. My elders used to say about plenty of Sal-ing in the past but can never be found anymore when i was in High School. I grew up though where Sal-ing was used to refer to Asian Glossy Starling (especially the mature ones). With binot's local names, I now suspect Sal-ing as my elders refer to are actually coleto's when forest covers in Negros are still abundant. It would be great if an effort is made to really stitch all these local names correctly so the country can publish an info on local names too. |
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Post by Toto Gamboa on Jul 19, 2009 5:58:44 GMT
OT: this should have been in the bird ID section.
I used to see an unusual bird when I was a kid. It was locally known as "daplak". It is a dark colored bird (dark brown or black, cant remember it accurately) and It can often be seen in the ground or trails where upon landing, it will usually lay flat on the ground with its wings and tail feathers spread out, thus the monicker "daplak". Locally, "daplak" means like you are laying flat on the ground from a bad fall. I only seen this bird twice when I was a kid. I dunno what actually that bird is and its scientific name. Anybody seen this kind of behaviour among birds?
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Post by Elvin Sansona on Jul 19, 2009 6:05:09 GMT
Sir Toto my wild guess would be a peregrine falcon drop with a prey because so far in my stored pockets of memory in my ganglia (hehehehe) its the only bird that do this stuff. I borrowed a picture from www.netstate.com/states/symb/raptors/images to demonstrate how it looks like when this falcon drops from above  |
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Post by Elvin Sansona on Jul 19, 2009 6:13:40 GMT
additional names:
jungle fowl - manok ihalas (wild chicken)
malaysian fantail - bangkiyod or balangkiyod
philippine cockatoo - abukay
swallow - sayaw
wagtail - kiyod-kiyod
to telyds:
butterfly is alibangbang or kaba-kaba
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Post by Toto Gamboa on Jul 19, 2009 6:28:54 GMT
Hi Binot .. My regrettable consciousness about birds that time was different. We never cared how birds were called back then, we only cared how meaty and tasty they were and/or if they can become household pets.
But am not sure if it was a raptor, seems not. It's size are similar to that of mature philippine coucals. I'd be able to recall if ever I see one again.
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Post by Elvin Sansona on Jul 19, 2009 6:42:38 GMT
Me too, that was my idea of wildbirds, its either food or pet. I had a mini-aviary in 1997-2000 with 57 species of birds but I let go of the birds when I had my Bohol work. Right now I run a rescue center of my own but not on full-time because of my present job. I rescued 3 white-eared brown fruit doves from an irresponsible owner and 1 of the birds can't make it to the wild of a damaged wing. I had that bird stayed in my facility forever.  |
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Post by Elvin Sansona on Jul 19, 2009 6:52:33 GMT
additional local names:
flowerpecker - pirot
guaiabero - botitok
large parrot (except abukay) - periko or pikoy
kingfishers - tikarol
racket-tailed parrot - managing or managuing
shrike - tibaas
BTW bird is langgam that's why there is a bisayan joke that langgam in tagalog is crawling while in bisaya it is already flying
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Post by Elvin Sansona on Jul 19, 2009 12:13:15 GMT
more additional names:
black-winged stilt - madre-madre (looks like a nun)
philippine bulbul - toktoriyok
quail - pugo or buntog
slender-billed cuckoo dove - manok-manok
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Post by Edu Lorenzo Jr on Jul 19, 2009 12:42:08 GMT
Hi Binot, when I was in Butuan, while taking videos of birds.. one of the hotel staff asked me "Sir naghanap ka ng langgam?" I said no, so he didn't help me. I wish I had read your post sooner..  For everyone, What is the bird known as the "tarat"? One of my cousins pointed to a Pied Fantail and said it's a Tarat, but from another place, they called the Pied Fantail something else, with a spanish tone to it, I forgot. |
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