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Post by Teddy Regpala on Feb 20, 2009 17:35:08 GMT
Before anything else, I know nothing about developing mobile apps (read: clueless). If the issue is the size of the database, can it be placed in the flash memory cards (flash memory is cheap nowadays) ? As long as the actual app is small and simple, I think the internal memories can handle it.
Regarding portability, I would suggest to do it in the most popular OS first, then port it later on.
Regarding images, the images should be tiny, I hope the respective owners won't have any problem agreeing to the use of those.
Regarding bird calls, add it later as an upgrade. First, don't get overwhelmed with lots of features that can't be delivered. Microsoft's Vista ... enough said. Second, there's not enough yet. We don't want to infringe other's copyright, right ? :wink: :wink:
If there's anything I can do to help, let me know.
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Post by Ivan Sarenas on Feb 21, 2009 0:57:10 GMT
Like Eric P. and Telyds, I don't wanna burst the bubble on this idea but as a guide for use in the field, nothing beats perfectly posed illustrations that show the diagnostic features of the bird/s. Bird photography is not easy and it probably is impossible to complete all the species that occur here photographically. Unlike, say an illustrated guide which is really what's needed whether electronic or printed. 2 centavos lang ho
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Post by Toto Gamboa on Feb 24, 2009 6:42:55 GMT
anyway guys, so far my general impression now after several opinions were brought up is that there seem to be too few people who are interested in the idea and I understand the apprehensions and doubts. still I am left wanting to have one if one is already available.
nevertheless, I still plan to do this for my own personal consumption and i'll just probably make it available for friends and for anybody interested on using it.
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Post by Elvin Sansona on Jul 11, 2009 4:46:12 GMT
this is a great idea sir Toto, you can compile our shots and if we have audios and other ID notes you can merge these files and we can utilize a freeware bird ID which can be played or viewed in mobile devises. I suggest Mastah if you can allocate a thread for audios.
What you think guys? The issue would be copyright and we can open a thread for discussion
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Post by Agerico M. De Villa on Jul 14, 2009 11:49:29 GMT
The offer of Ateneo De Manila University Press still stands. This is an offer to publish a photographic guide to the birds of the Philippines. It is only that I have not been able to organize those who have agreed to participate. Also, of course, that I have not been able to finish the draft of the proposal. Maybe someone can take over? Maybe someone is in a better position to organize. I hope to finalize my proposal by the end of the month; I have had to look at so many approaches to satisfy as many of us as possible. If I am not able to finish it, this means I cannot call for a meeting. This means someone should really take over.
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Post by Toto Gamboa on Jul 14, 2009 15:14:10 GMT
Thanks Binot. Sorry I just noticed this thread has been updated. There were some initial communications already done on how to go about this but I guess due to the difficulty in coordinating the different schedules and availability of individuals who were willing to contribute to the development of this idea, the efforts came to a halt. The scope and complexity is somehow significant to make this a reality so whoever wants to pursue this really needs to spend a lot of time with this possible project. I have the impression that there are other similar parallel efforts/projects that might make this idea seem redundant and I have no idea as well as to where those projects are now. I guess, here is what I am gonna do. Since I brought this up and so as not to waste other's time and contribution (aside from the difficulty coordinating people to move for this idea), I guess I should be the one to really come up with something first. I'll probably come up with a working prototype for everybody's scrutiny and probably take it from there. after that, if reception is good, the idea will be pursued and those interested to contribute should get on board to speed up the development. if the reception isn't positive, might as well junk the idea. I know this should be beneficial for everyone, it is just a matter of having something working and get it going. This is quite a lot of work but it is doable. I really need to spend some time on this Cge cge .. promise. Gawa muna ako
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Post by alainpascua on Jul 14, 2009 16:37:35 GMT
Go go go, Toto!!!!! Wow that sounds so good!
Will back you up on this. Will really help. But don't let this project hinder your/our actual birding!
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Post by alainpascua on Jul 14, 2009 16:40:36 GMT
The offer of Ateneo De Manila University Press still stands. This is an offer to publish a photographic guide to the birds of the Philippines. It is only that I have not been able to organize those who have agreed to participate. Also, of course, that I have not been able to finish the draft of the proposal. Maybe someone can take over? Maybe someone is in a better position to organize. I hope to finalize my proposal by the end of the month; I have had to look at so many approaches to satisfy as many of us as possible. If I am not able to finish it, this means I cannot call for a meeting. This means someone should really take over. Prof. Jerry, I can help you on this. Actually, I want to be part of this effort. Would love to see my name in that book, and a few of my photos if they pass the standards! ;D
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Post by steve pryor on Nov 8, 2009 9:05:28 GMT
More of a nuts 'n' bolts guy myself. If I wanted to do something like this, I would just extract photos, all labeled mind you as to species, sex, developmental stage, from my huge database (approaching 400,000 bird photos), and make up a smaller database involving only those birds that interest me (e.g., only for Luzon), and then I would stick it on a PDA and take it in the field with me. It helps however, for speed of use, to be able to have sight recognition at first glance, at least of the genus of the bird you are trying to ID. This takes practise.
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Post by ppaaoolloo on Nov 8, 2009 12:18:17 GMT
A developer made a bird field guide for N. American birds for the iPhone OS. Pretty good implementation IMO. www.ibirdexplorer.com/
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Post by Toto Gamboa on Jul 30, 2010 3:28:42 GMT
Thanks Binot. Sorry I just noticed this thread has been updated. There were some initial communications already done on how to go about this but I guess due to the difficulty in coordinating the different schedules and availability of individuals who were willing to contribute to the development of this idea, the efforts came to a halt. The scope and complexity is somehow significant to make this a reality so whoever wants to pursue this really needs to spend a lot of time with this possible project. I have the impression that there are other similar parallel efforts/projects that might make this idea seem redundant and I have no idea as well as to where those projects are now. I guess, here is what I am gonna do. Since I brought this up and so as not to waste other's time and contribution (aside from the difficulty coordinating people to move for this idea), I guess I should be the one to really come up with something first. I'll probably come up with a working prototype for everybody's scrutiny and probably take it from there. after that, if reception is good, the idea will be pursued and those interested to contribute should get on board to speed up the development. if the reception isn't positive, might as well junk the idea. I know this should be beneficial for everyone, it is just a matter of having something working and get it going. This is quite a lot of work but it is doable. I really need to spend some time on this Cge cge .. promise. Gawa muna ako Whew ... after more than a year! I guess I got something working! PROJECT BULBULThe project is to develop a search engine that will help one determine the name and information related to a bird seen in the Philippines. The following site 203.177.145.12/lisa7/florafaunaph/opac/is currently a candidate for release and does not yet have the extent of information needed. It only contains a few bird records (less than 10 records) for testing and to demonstrate the search engine's capability. I have yet to come up with the kind of information that needs to be defined and searched. Suggestions from anyone is welcome. Here is your guide to testing To open, click the following: 203.177.145.12/lisa7/florafaunaph/opac/1. KEYWORD SEARCH You use this type of searching if you just wanted to look for a bird and you only have some few words in mind like when you saw a "kingfisher" in a "river". 2. SEARCH BY FIELD You use this type of searching if you want something definitive. Like if you are looking for the name of the small bird with a long beak and short legs that you have seen by the river. Feedback is highly appreciated. This is still a work in progress. Pardon for the speed. I am currently just temporarily hosting this from home. I'll try to list down the features later. NOTE: Mobile online edition still to come. The name of the project was decided last year by me, Edu, Mark and Teddy.
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