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Post by Ely Teehankee on Dec 22, 2010 8:09:00 GMT
I am so flattered by Edu's remark that my series of the Collared Kingfisher is described as "Stellar". Edu has just exposed himself as a loyal fun. LOL I have calibrated my monitor and re processed two of Edu's favorite pictures in the series. May I please have an objective critique from the foremost bird photographer of the Philippines.
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Post by Romy Ocon on Dec 22, 2010 9:20:36 GMT
Both very good captures with tons of detail, Ely. I likewise concur with the compositions. Some nits: Both are in Adobe RGB color space and displays well inside Photoshop. When seen as a web display and if the net browser is not color managed, both would appear flattish looking. I suggest that you always post web pics in sRGB. I'm a concrete guy by specialization and I like the perch as a building material, but I wish for a natural rock in the photos instead. No.1 - Neck area is burnt, not sure if this can be recovered during RAW conversion. The colors can be made even richer with some blacks added, i.e. try a levels adjustment of say 10, 1.08, 255. No. 2 - A small burnt area in the neck too. This is a matter of personal taste, but I'd warm the WB a bit if the photo is mine.
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Post by Ely Teehankee on Dec 22, 2010 21:23:09 GMT
My computer has been set to sRGB and now its back to Adobe RGB. Is it possible that everytime I calibrate the monitor it would go back to Adobe RGB? I thought those rocks were all natural. These rocks may have come from a demolished building and they use it here as a breaker together with the natural rocks. I will try the suggestions you made on the levels and WB and see if I can improve on the pictures. Thank you Romy for your critique.
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Post by Ely Teehankee on Dec 23, 2010 6:58:00 GMT
I re-processed the pictures as you suggested and sharpen it a little bit more. The first picture I like but the wings of the second one I don't like. The settings are sRGB, are you getting it as sRGB or Adobe RGB?
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Post by Romy Ocon on Dec 24, 2010 1:50:51 GMT
Great recovery on the whites, Ely.
These are still in Adobe RGB and hence will appear as flat-looking to applications that aren't color managed. I suggest you use in the mean time a working color space of sRGB in PS and process all your photos in sRGB, at least until you become more familiar with the strengths and weaknesses of particular color spaces.
The levels adjustment I suggested was only for the specific version first posted. If you re-processed from RAW, it wouldn't be necessarily the right levels amount.
I prefer the WB of the second photo's new version, but again that's a matter of personal taste.
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Post by Ely Teehankee on Dec 24, 2010 3:37:59 GMT
That is strange because when I viewed it on the PS view it indicates sRGB. I must have done something wrong. I will have to check this again.
I followed your suggestion of making the second bird warmer. You have more contacts with the birds so this must be how they really look like. I agree with you it is better when its warm than appearing cold. Just like human beings. LOL
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