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Post by ppaaoolloo on Aug 25, 2010 19:50:25 GMT
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Post by Clemn A. Macasiano Jr. on Aug 26, 2010 0:12:59 GMT
Isaw this in Hong kong but I have doubts with the brand ..  |
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Post by ppaaoolloo on Aug 26, 2010 5:40:54 GMT
It's P9,300 Doc.  Not bad for the price. |
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Post by Bobby Kintanar on Oct 18, 2010 11:50:44 GMT
I have purchased this monitor - and it actually is quite good! :-)
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Post by ppaaoolloo on Oct 18, 2010 22:25:24 GMT
Great to hear. Please post photos of you new monitor
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Post by Romy Ocon on Oct 18, 2010 23:02:25 GMT
I have purchased this monitor - and it actually is quite good! :-) Great! Some questions: 1. So, how do its colors compare to your previous LCD Bobby, more vibrant? 2. Did you notice that the viewing angle is wider? IPS screens are supposed to have less change in colors when viewed from different angles. |
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Post by Bobby Kintanar on Oct 18, 2010 23:25:24 GMT
Here are my observations so far regarding this monitor:
1. The colors are indeed more vibrant - some photos that looked kinda plain before now look so much better!
2. The viewing angle is True Wide with the IPS in both vertical and horizontal perspectives.
3. The blacks are deeper and richer, and the whites can be discerned, if you look close enough, to 254! I can now see more hallows in photos that I did not know were there before!
4. The "glare" from the monitor is somehow not as harsh as my former LCD! I did not expect this. This results in better detection of "over-sharpening" if you have "astigmatism" as I do.
5. Light bleeding from the side/corner is so very minimal for our use that it's almost a non-issue.
6. The monitor can be adjusted via both Software (Windows Application) and directly using the monitor's single button cluster, which works much like the selection buttons on a cellphone - excellent!
7. The response time is good enough for my 3D gaming needs (I tested it using Aquamark 3).
8. At Php 9,600.00 this monitor is the best value for money right now. I highly recommend it to those using non-IPS monitors so you can see the difference for yourself! :-)
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Post by Romy Ocon on Oct 19, 2010 2:43:24 GMT
Thanks for the great feedback Bobby!!! Might get one myself for Pogito's desktop. |
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Post by Bobby Kintanar on Oct 19, 2010 3:44:15 GMT
Honestly, Ka Mastah, you're photos are even more magnificent using an IPS Monitor! I never thought there were so much more details in your shots. The IPS can really do justice to all the masterful photos we come across this forum every now and then!
Thanks for the information regarding this really useful piece of equipment, Ka Mastah! :-)
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Post by Romy Ocon on Oct 21, 2010 10:08:16 GMT
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Post by Bobby Kintanar on Oct 21, 2010 12:01:40 GMT
Ayayayayay!!!! Again, ayayayayayay!!!! If only all the other birdnuts who have not yet decided to use the IPS Monitor can see what I can see with these images, their jaws would drop too! The birds all seem like they've been captured in 3D - the color and shadow/highlight gradations are so subtle, but clear, that the images take on a whole new dimension!! It's AMAZING!
My goodness, even the group shot looks more vibrant, and the moon, WOW! Details that I have never seen before just pop out!!
Folks, you gotta experience IPS technology. My AOC IPS monitor is perhaps the cheapest (in price), but believe me, you won't regret it!
And don't forget how much this single piece of equipment can really help to improve your Post Processing! I urge you all to go out and take a look at an IPS Monitor!!
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Post by gabriel buluran on Oct 22, 2010 5:24:19 GMT
hi bobby! is it compatible with a mac mini?
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Post by Bobby Kintanar on Oct 22, 2010 12:49:59 GMT
It only has a VGA and Digital Video Input. I don't know if it's compatible with a Mac. :-)
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Post by Romy Ocon on Oct 22, 2010 12:54:39 GMT
It only has a VGA and Digital Video Input. I don't know if it's compatible with a Mac. :-) Bobby, if you have a manual or specs sheet that came with the unit, it should indicate there if it's Mac compatible. I'd presume it is, otherwise AOC would deny itself a significant portion of the market. |
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Post by Bobby Kintanar on Oct 22, 2010 13:12:05 GMT
Well, the manual came in CD form, so I've just finished reviewing it and it seems this particular model does not come with a Mac Driver, nor is there any mention of its compatibility with Macs. It comes with Windows 7, Vista, XP and ME/2000 Drivers, and that's it. :-)
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Post by Romy Ocon on Oct 22, 2010 13:38:32 GMT
Well, the manual came in CD form, so I've just finished reviewing it and it seems this particular model does not come with a Mac Driver, nor is there any mention of its compatibility with Macs. It comes with Windows 7, Vista, XP and ME/2000 Drivers, and that's it. :-) Hmmmm unfortunately, you're right Bobby..... seems AOC left out the Mac users. Here's an online copy of the manual in PDF (slow loading, be patient). support.aocmonitorap.com/manuals/if23/English.pdf |
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Post by mantarey on Oct 22, 2010 14:29:29 GMT
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Post by Romy Ocon on Oct 23, 2010 0:23:40 GMT
A good display (plus hardware calibration) is a major pre-requisite to accurate PP work, Rey. A bad display means one is processing blindly - one can make the photo look good on his monitor but it will appear off in all other displays. Print matching will also be a nightmare. Now, an IPS can be obtained at a very affordable cost (less than P 10K). I had to import mine from SG at about P 45K inclusive of air freight and taxes. DP Online sells the following calibrators (might be even cheaper at Hidalgo): Spyder Express 3 - P 6K Spyder 3 pro - P 9.95K www.dponline.com.ph/store/search.php5?b=Spyder&c=Color Management&menuheader expandable=11 A group of birdnuts can possibly buy one and divide the cost and usage among themselves. One need not calibrate very often, as LCD drift is less than that of CRT. Once a month is great, but twice a year is workable too. Assuming a group of 4 buys the S3Pro, the cost is only P 2.5K per birdnut, and you can just rotate the calibrator among the 4 users. I reckon a P 12K investment (P 9.3 for the IPS, P 2.5K for the shared calibrator) will result into a much larger jump in IQ (as seen by viewers of our pics) than buying an 800 5.6L + 1D4. Here's a bit of technical trivia - when Canon sent me a hi-res version of the following ad (which was done in a pro PP environment), Pogito and I had much fun comparing the colors of my clothing on-screen (using my calibrated IPS display) and in real life. The colors match very well. Even the brochures (printed in CMYK, offset) are a close match to what we see on-screen.  |
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Post by ppaaoolloo on Oct 23, 2010 0:51:16 GMT
I reckon a P 12K investment (P 9.3 for the IPS, P 2.5K for the shared calibrator) will result into a much larger jump in IQ (as seen by viewers of our pics) than buying an 800 5.6L + 1D4. It also helps that you don't edit just anywhere (ideally you should edit in a room with static controlled consistent lighting) and know what you are doing. ;D But a question does pop up Romy. If you and I are using IPS panels that are calibrated often enough to reduce drift what about those using TN panels (99% of all LCDs in the Philippines) and do not calibrate. Not to mention how Windows and Macs render colors & color profiles differently. Others not having the same calibrated LCD panel would not see what we did properly. |
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Post by Romy Ocon on Oct 23, 2010 1:20:14 GMT
But a question does pop up Romy. If you and I are using IPS panels that are calibrated often enough to reduce drift what about those using TN panels (99% of all LCDs in the Philippines) and do not calibrate. Not to mention how Windows and Macs render colors & color profiles differently. Others not having the same calibrated LCD panel would not see what we did properly. Yes, viewers with TN, consumer CRT and/or uncalibrated screens will see our work much differently. Most TN panels are delivered with very bright factory defaults, hence users of these would see my photos as too bright. We can't avoid the fact that many viewers in the net will see our photos in a non-uniform manner. But we take satisfaction in the knowledge that our fellow bird photogs (especially at sites like Naturescapes, where most are into color management) would see our work as we intended such to be viewed. Printing for us will be easier as well. Likewise, clients who might be interested in our work normally have color-managed systems so they'll also appreciate our PP. |
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Not bad for the price.
